Showing posts with label POLITICS. Show all posts
Showing posts with label POLITICS. Show all posts

Muslim Brother hood - Egypt's Future for Democracy - or Not?

Most everyone is familiar with the Arab Spring uprisings.  Many major "news" outlets called it the "grass-roots Democracy movement of the Middle East".

The Presidential Election of 2012 was a historic even in Egypt.  But what about the new President of Egypt - Mohamed Morsi?

Who is he?  Where did he come from?

What is the Muslim Brotherhood?

Seriously, if someone just read / scanned "Major" media outlets, the picture they paint of Morsi and the Brotherhood is one of "tolerance" and "moderation" and "democracy".  Let's look at some of those articles.  Let's see what good old Google has to say:

So I searched Google - News for  "Mohamed Morsi"

There's the Wikipedia entry of course.

Then there is an article about him planning to visit the U.S.

Then buried under that, in small print (Google - say it ain't so) is this gem:

EGYPT PRESIDENT PLANS TO VISIT IRAN

Really? This is the guy we're supporting.  Well maybe he's preaching that whole "moderation and tolerance" gig. I wasn't going to include democracy- it is Iran...seriously?

First a QUICK History of Egypt - Iran relations.

- 1979 Shah overthrown in Iran
- 1979 Egypt signs the Egypt-Israel peace treaty

That's basically all you need to know right there.  So what has changed to make this visit even possible?

"Mr.Morsi will visist Tehran on Aug 30th to attend the Nonaligned Movement meeting, where Egypt will transfer the movement's rotating leadership to IRan. The movement was established during the cold war to advocate for developing nations."

WIKIPEDIA ENTRY FOR NON ALIGNED MOVEMENT

Interesting reading there.  Innocent enough I guess. LOL.

Plenty of good old Anti-American Policy rants too.  

So let's get back to Morsi.

Born in Cairo. Educated at Cairo University (Engineering) then received a PhD in Engineering from Univ of Southern California. He was an assistant professor at California State University for several years then moved back to Egypt in 1985, where he taught at Zagazig University until 2010.

Still haven't nailed down WHEN he jointed the Muslim Brotherhood - but I digress.

Morsi was actually the SECOND CHOICE for a Presidential candidate backed by the Muslim Brotherhood. The first choice was:

Khairat El-Shater 

But he was disqualified by the election commission because he had just been released from an Egyptian prison in 2011.  What?

Yup - he's millionaire businessman and a leading member (and financier) of the Brotherhood. Apparently after Anwar Sadat's assassination, in 1981, he was exiled and labeled an "Islamist Dissident". He went to England. (No surprise there). He returned sometime in the 80's, became an active member of the Brotherhood.  In 1995 he became the head of the Cairo branch.

He was jailed (for the second time- the first time for protests against the government in 1968) in 2006.  He was charged with supplying students with weapons and military training.


Apparently he was DQ'd because it hadn't been more than 6 years since he was released from prison.

So then comes Morsi.  Apparently he was already a member of Parliament.

Khairat el-Shater - Muslim Brotherhood Candidate

Ban on Egyptian Presidential Candidate Upheld

More on el-Shater

So this guy was their FIRST choice? Okay. So back to Moris, after all - he is the President of Egypt now.

Apparently the Muslim Brotherhood, under the former governments, was banned from sponsoring a Presidential candidate. So they founded the Freedom and Justice party. Morsi was named the President of the party when it was founded in 2011.  They won numerous amounts of Parliament seats when they contested elections in 2011.

Islamists win 70% of the seats in the Egyptian Parliament


There have been many rumors and stories that the Salafit Al-Nour party joined forces with the Brotherhood backed Freedom and Justice party.  Publicly Salafists claim this to be untrue, as they believe the F&J party to be TOO moderate, when it comes to using Sharia law (Islamic law) as basis for governing.

Clear as mud?

BTW - the Brotherhood proclaimed they wouldn't sponsor a candidate for the Presidency - this was before they sponsored el-Shater. Also Morsi resigned from the Brotherhood after winning the Presidential Election.

So what about the Muslim Brotherhood?

Well do some reading.  They are not (or at least in the past haven't been - people and organizations can change right? Change their public or outside perception at least) exactly the "tolerant" and "moderate" organization they are purported (by the "major" "news" outlet - sorry the use of those terms simply required two different sets of quotation marks) to be.

Some of the founding and most influential members of the Brotherhood are often quoted by proven terrorists and their organizations.

Ever heard of HAMAS?  They are essentially a result of the Brotherhood gaining ground in Palestine (the brother of the Brotherhood founder started the Palestinian branch in the 1930's).


Essentially the Muslim Brotherhood puts on a front of charity and moderation.  No one can refute these things they have done in Middle Eastern countries. But even their own history involves “Secret Councils” or basically military versions of their group that worked to overthrow the Egyptian government (among other ties to VARIOUS and plentiful terror based groups).

They are remaking, or honestly have remade, their public image.  They performed a vigorous PR campaign that basically convinced people across the world that they are NOT a terror organization.

Funny, so many proclaimed jihadists, many convicted of crimes as such, have cited Brotherhood members when justifying their actions.

Sayyid Qutb was one. He was often cited as a heavy influence by Osama Bin Laden among others.

Qutb was a scholar who actually studied and taught in the United States as early as the 1940’s



Qutb’s opinions on the United States and Western societies are well known among Islamic Fundamentalists, and in reality many consider him when trying to explain the birth of “modern” Islamic extremism.


Very informative article about Qutb and what he believed.

He was a huge part of the Brotherhood and helped with the Egyptian revolution of 1952.  After the Brotherhood tried to assassinate Nasser (the second President of Egypt) who they had helped overthrow the former government – thousands of Brotherhood members were jailed, including Qutb.

He was executed by the Egyptian government after years of imprisonment and apparent torture.  He’s considered by jihadists to the be the “original” martyr of their cause – an inspiration.

The list goes on and on.  But apparently, if you have a good publicist – and you can “distance” yourself from the violent offshoots and wings you helped found and sponsored – then everything is okay.

Now try to make sense of all this after all the recent articles about how the U.S. is SUPPORTING  the current Egyptian President (sponsored by the Brotherhood).

Apparently if we don’t believe the “mainstream” media, we must all be crazy conspiracy theorists.

















Really? This is considered reliable data?

So I'm surfing the latest news this morning.  I usually try to read all sides of the stories - so my first dragnet was simply Google - News.

The top entry was this one:

POLL SHOWS OBAMA WITH SMALL LEAD IN SWING STATES

Right under that was one from the Daily Beast:

POLL: 0 PERCENT OF BLACKS SUPPORT ROMNEY

That one sure got my attention, so off I go to read that article.  I mean, there surely has to be at least ONE black person who would vote for Romney...right?

I start reading the story and it's simply a blurb referring to the same poll as the leader article.  So I follow the link where it cites this particular poll.  That led me to another Daily Beast article posted last night.  It references the same poll again, but it has a link to the "NBS NEWS/Wall Street Journal Poll" that's being quoted in all these stories.

NBC/WSJ Poll: Heading into the conventions, Obama has a four-point lead

So that story rolls along and I read this part:

"Obama and Vice President Joe Biden gets support from 48 percent of the registered voters, and a Republican ticket of Romney and new running mate Paul Ryan gets 44 percent."

Last time I checked, 48+44=92.  So that leaves 8 percent undecided?  Voting for a third party candidate?  Not really giving a shit?  Hung up because America's Got Talent was coming on?

FINALLY!!! A link to the ACTUAL poll!!!

Go check that out - it might be interesting for you to note that this poll was done via the phone, including 300 cell phone only respondents.

1000 Registered voters were polled (I'm assuming they simply took the word of the people responding on the phone?  I mean how many probably hung up on them.  I wonder how long it took to actual get 1000 people to answer and then answer multiple questions  - much less make sure they were registered voters.)


All results are shown in percentages

The margin of error for this poll is + or - 3.1 percent.

So out of the 1000 people responding, the margin of error is 31 people?

Does that mean the answers could have been recorded wrong? The people conducting the poll made a mistake?  The caller couldn't understand the respondent?

What exactly does that mean?

So we start looking at the actual questions on the poll:


For statistical purposes only, would you please tell me how old you are?  (IF “REFUSED,” ASK:) Well, 
would you tell me which age group you belong to? (READ LIST.)+ 
18-24 .................................................................... 9
25-29 .................................................................... 7
30-34 .................................................................... 10
35-39 .................................................................... 8
40-44 .................................................................... 10
45-49 .................................................................... 7
50-54 .................................................................... 10
55-59 .................................................................... 11
60-64 .................................................................... 12
65-69 .................................................................... 5
70-74 .................................................................... 5
75 and over .......................................................... 6
  Not sure/refused ................................................ -
+ Results shown reflect responses among registered voters.

Fair enough - makes sense.


To ensure that we have a representative sample, would you please tell me whether you are from a Hispanic 
or Spanish-speaking background?+ 
Yes, Hispanic ...................................................  8
No, not Hispanic ..............................................  92
  Not sure/refused ............................................  -
+ Results shown reflect responses among registered voters



And again, for statistical purposes only, what is your race--white, black, Asian, or something else?+ 
White ..............................................................   74
Black ..............................................................   12
Asian ..............................................................   3
Other ..............................................................   4
  Hispanic (VOL) .............................................   4
  Not sure/refused ..........................................   3
+ Results shown reflect responses among registered voters.


Not sure / refused?  So that's 3 percent of 1000.  So 30 people either refused to give their race or they were not sure of their race? Mixed race? That makes sense right?

Honestly I know plenty of people that are black,white, Asian etc - even mixed race.  None of them have ever seemed confused about what race they are.

Maybe the people responding to the poll were simply offended?  Maybe they thought it didn't matter (and honestly except for the initial article title 'O PERCENT OF BLACKS BACK ROMNEY" it would't have mattered to me either.)


Q3 All in all, do you think things in the nation are generally headed in the right direction, or do you feel  things 
 are off on the wrong track? 


                                              8/12+  
Headed in the right direction ..... 32   
Off on the wrong track .............. 61  
  Mixed (VOL) ........................... 4  
  Not sure ................................ 3  



(This poll also shows prior responses by month- going back a year.)

32 percent - that's 320 people - really answered that they thought this country was headed in the right direction?????

Who the hell would take the time to actually take the poll and answer like this?  Really?

Remember these are supposedly REGISTERED VOTERS.

That's a scary number right there - 320 people - If you transpose these numbers onto the total numbers of total registered voters (remember a poll is a sampling) that would mean that 

The rough numbers I could find told me that there were 169 MILLION REGISTERED VOTERS (86 million Democrat, 55 Million Republican - 28 million "others")

So 32 percent of 169 MILLION = 54 MILLION

So 54 MILLION PEOPLE in this country think everything is hunky dory and chugging right along as it should??? REALLY?

Q4 In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job Barack Obama is doing as president?



                               8/12
Approve .................   48  
Disapprove.............    49  
  Not sure ...............   3

So 49 percent DISAPPROVE of the job he's doing.  So 82 MILLION people disapprove of the job he's doing - but more than half of them think everything is okay?

WTF?

Q5 Do you generally approve or disapprove of the job Barack Obama is doing in handling the economy?

54 percent disapprove ( 91 MILLION)






Q6b In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Congress is doing?

82 percent disapprove ( 138 MILLION)

Honestly I'm shocked the number wasn't higher.  Maybe some family members of politicians were poll respondents?  Maybe those 12 percent who DID APPROVE (6 percent were NOT SURE-  again WTF?) were simply ready to get on with their day.


I’d like to ask you a question about the November 2012 presidential election… 
Q7 Please tell me how interested you are in November's elections, using a scale from one to ten, on which a 
"ten" means that you are very interested in November's elections and a "one" means that you are not at all 
interested.  You may choose any number from one to ten.  (IF "NOT SURE," RECORD AS "DK.") 

This ought to be interesting. Remember 10 is the most interested, 1 is not interested at all.

10 - 62% very interested  (104 million)
 9  - 6%   (10 million)
8   - 13% (21 million)
7  -  6%   ( 10 million)
6  -  3%   (5 million)
5  - 5%    (8 million )
4  - 1%   (1.6 million)
3  - 1%
2 -  1%
1 (NOT INTERESTED AT ALL) - 2% (3.2 million)

Wonder what the numbers would have been if the subject had been American Idol, Jersey Shore, Big Brother or Tom and Katie's divorce???


Most of the other questions are pretty standard.  Check it out. Until you get a bit further down:


Q24a Has what you have seen, read, or heard about Mitt Romney’s previous business experience managing a 
firm that specializes in buying, restructuring, and selling companies made you feel … more positive or more 
negative about him, not made much difference in your opinion or do you not know enough about this to have 
an opinion at this time? 

Okay- I can see this.  They gotta be asking questions about Obama too...right?  Wrong.

So what would you say the MAJORITY of people actually know about the things Romney actually did when he was in the business world ("buying, restructuring, and selling companies")???

Fair to say that most know only what they've seen on television ad (CAMPAIGN ADS) or blurbs they've read or seen on the news.


                                                8/12
More positive  ........................... 25 
More negative ..........................  28  
Not much difference .................   27 
Don’t know enough ..................   20 



Has what you have seen, read, or heard about Mitt Romney’s tax returns and the percent he has paid in 
federal income taxes made you feel … more positive or more negative about him, not made much difference 
in your opinion or do you not know enough about this to have an opinion at this time? 

WTF?  REALLY? Aren't polls supposed to be unbiased?  What the hell is this even doing here?  

Hey I'm not a big Romney fan - but really?  Like I said - nothing about the negative stuff being slung about Obama.  Just rating the overall job he's doing as POTUS.


                                                8/12
More positive  ........................... 6 
More negative .......................... 36 
Not much difference .................  41 
Don’t know enough ..................  17 

That's pretty telling right there.

36 percent........................

How the hell is this supposed to even really mean anything?

Makes you think - if this many "news sources" are already throwing this "hard data" out there and citing this poll, makes you wonder what other "data" or "polls" are useless bullshit.

I'm getting a headache - time for another cup of coffee.





Anyone else that dreads this time of year?


I can’t be the only one.  I simply can’t be. (see what I did there?)

Anyway, unless you’ve been living on a deserted island with a volleyball named Wilson (am I legally allowed to reference that here? Oh well.) you are fully aware it’s an election year.

The “media” is slinging their version of the “truth” (damn that was physically painful to write) and each campaign is slinging their version of “Why you should NOT vote for the other guy – so naturally you have to vote for me.”

WTF?  When did this become our political reality (okay those two words combined aren’t exactly an everyday occurrence)???

Commericials. Websites being slammed with ads for the prospective candidates.  All that I can deal with.  The one thing that tends to make me miserable during this time of the year (besides the obvious direction our country seems to be heading) is the difference in my workplace – more specifically my co-workers.

It will usually start around September or so.  That’s when my normally “normal” co-workers stop discussing Big Brother (insert another Reality show here) and start on Politics.

The funny thing is that they almost NEVER have an actual opinion.  They are simply puking up the stuff they hear on whichever radio, website, tv channel or God Forbid – Facebook page they’ve been paying attention to.

Now granted it’s normal for me to get emails from otherwise very intelligent co-workers and associates regarding the latest BS chain email or stupid urban legend that’s trying to take hold.  I used to take the time to explain why the information they were passing along was false, but that was a failing proposition.  It sometimes tended to make these people actually try to defend their position – and that is DEFINITELY not valuable use of my time.  In fact, drinking myself into oblivion would be a much better use of my time – again – I digress.  As of late I simply find the link to Snopes or another reputable source which points out exactly WHY the “hot topic” of the hour is total bullshit.

My strategy seemed to have worked.  The frequency of those emails have been cut drastically.  Do I think I actually educated these people?

Hell no. They simple took my off their forwarding list for email.  Is anyone actually that optimistic?

So for those of you who have this same issue…if you want to try another strategy – besides wearing earphones all day, pretending to be mute, or maybe yelling “Ralph Nader for President!!” I’ve come up with an almost foolproof plan.

As they vigorously regurgitate the garbage that seeped into their brain, simply respond with:

“What’s their voting record on this subject?”

The blank look they give you is worth it.  I swear.  The trick is to SAY THIS, then immediately put them on ignore.  Only the really persistent ones will go check their favorite “news” site (the truly original might actually hit up Google – odds are against it though) and report back.

The same response normally works wonders.

See you after the dust settles in late November.

And good luck.